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September 10th, 2006 18:00

DIM4700 -20 pin or 24 pin ?

​ My first post (cry for help) on the forum ! ​
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​ I have just got a Dimension 4700 'barebone' -(case, psu, mobo & leads) off EBay. ​
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​ Problem is the main connector, the PSU has a 20 pin male but the mobo has a 24 pin female? ​
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​ I know the mobo is the DIM4700, and 20 will go into 24, but has someone switched the PSU on me ? ​
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​ Any help would be greatly appreciated :) ​
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September 10th, 2006 19:00

You should read the post at the top of this page regarding the 4700.

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September 10th, 2006 20:00

Who-o-o-a-a no!  20 will NOT go into 24.  At least 4 wires will be mispositioned.  At best, it won't work.  At worst, smoke will come out (and you won't be able to put it back in).  The two components don't match and can't be used together.

Sorry, I don't know conclusively whether 4700 is a standard ATX pinout or not--Dell vacillates between standard and proprietary, and 4700 was on the 'hinge' of one of those vacillations.  (I lean toward proprietary.)

Google "Dell power adapter".  It will allow you to connect an aftermarket power supply to the Dell motherboard.  You'll still need a 24-pin supply, as the adapter doesn't make up the difference between 20 and 24, only the difference between Dell and everybody else.

Message Edited by x_lab rat on 09-10-200604:12 PM

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September 11th, 2006 10:00

MaryG:
 
have read it now, initially thought this was about '4700 fan orientation' but if everything goes off-topic I've got a lot of reading
 
x-lab rat
 
Thanx for the pointer, googled the adapter for fifteen bucks from http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/std/sku=dellconverter
however, at the bottom of the page 'known exceptions' states the Dimension 4700 does not require an adapter
 
So, I've got a 4700 case and mobo, with a 'Dells own' proprietry PSU.................right?
 

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September 11th, 2006 18:00

The 20-pin may or may not be ATX.  They're used in smaller systems.  The only way I know of to tell for sure is when you still have the original supply, and you compare wire-color positions on the original vs. the replacement.  The colors are industry standard, so if they match from one plug to the other, the two supplies are interchangeable.

Hmm.  I worked on 4700s.  The same supply that fit all the other 24-pin MBs fit the 4700 too, so maybe they switched back to ATX sooner than I thought.

If the adapter website says you don't need one for 4700:  I can't see where they would 'lie', especially if it results in you not buying one.  Maybe try another adapter site for corroboration.  If two sites say you don't need an adapter, pretty safe to just buy an ATX supply and plug it in.

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September 12th, 2006 14:00

Knowledge is power!...........................and I'm getting it piece by piece
 
i)   wire colours on PSU match up to industry standard :- its a 20 pin ATX
ii)  4700 mobo (24 pin) will accept standard ATX supply
iii)  Ebay vendor confirmed PSU and mobo supplied were original, and used together
iv) 20 pin will go into 24 pin, ''you just have to shuffle it up to the right''
 
apparently, the extra four pins were added due to AGP graphics cards making unreasonable demands on the PSU
and so long as I dont intend to install 'beefy' graphics or overclock, iv) above should be ok.
 
I'm feeling a lot braver, and the CPU has just arrived. I think I'll start plugging things in this week
Thanx for holding my hand on this one x-lab rat
 
knowledge is power, and the price to pay for gleaning such power..........retina burn
 
......when I went to bed last night and closed my eyes, I could see the word 'Google'
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